# Expanding Cylinders

In class, and on Twitter, I posed a question that led to lots of great conversation.

To increase the volume of a cylinder, is it better to increase the radius or the height? Great conversation starter today.#math #mathchat

— Patrick Honner (@MrHonner) January 9, 2015

There are many reasons I love this particular question. It’s familiar, accessible, and usually counter-intuitive. And it bridges algebra and geometry in a very natural way.

A reasonable response is to argue that an increase in radius will be better. The volume of a cylinder is , so an increase in radius seems to have a *squared* effect on the volume, while the effect of an increase in height is only linear.

If you imagine the grey cylinder shown below, this argument seems to make sense. Increasing the height a little bit adds a small blue disk of volume to the top, but increasing the radius a little bit adds a large blue shell. The additional volume of the shell clearly appears to be more than that of the disk.

However, this argument is a lot less convincing if you imagine a different cylinder.

It’s not obvious which additional volume here is larger, which suggests some further thinking is in order. At this point, some multidimensional extreme-case thinking usually leads to an appropriate conclusion: Namely, that the answer depends on the dimensions of the cylinder.

This problem is my standard introduction to partial derivatives. It creates great context for computing and comparing

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But its versatility is another reason I like this problem so much. Geometry and Calculus students can both engage in this problem in a meaningful way, using the tools available to them to analyze the situation. And it always results in great conversations!

## 2 Comments

## Mr R · January 11, 2015 at 10:50 am

This reminds me of a lab I do with we do with our geometry students (I’m not sure where the lab came from originally). Here it is:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30990947/Which%20Holds%20More.pdf

## Heather Berry · January 3, 2016 at 8:34 pm

Thanks for sharing. We started exploring this on Wednesday before break and I’m looking forward to continuing the discussion tomorrow. Your images are fantastic.